Recruitment Tips for International Nurses Coming to the USA

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you may be watching from and welcome to AMN Healthcare International's live show Onwards and Upwards, where we discuss everything a global healthcare worker needs to know about living and working in the United States. This week is Career Week today we have a special 30 minute segment. We are going to be talking all about recruitment. We're going to give you all the insights and insight info, insight and inside info, all about your competition, what the employers are looking for. We're going to give resume tips. We're going to talk about interview tips, lots of good stuff to cover today. So I am very excited. I don't know about all of you, but we have Career Week, and we are very excited for Career Week, so please put your questions in the chat. Please let us know where you're watching from. We love to see where our audience is watching from. And let's bring out our guests for today's show. Good morning Dee Good morning Joy. How are you both doing?  

Thank you for having us both on we love Career Week and always so excited to give great tips and tricks to our audience to make sure that they are putting their best foot forward, presenting the best version of themselves, both on a resume and in an interview. So we are excited to share the content that we have prepared for you today, but most importantly, take your questions. Very exciting well, you both have a lot of experience, and you've seen a thing or two, so I think we will definitely learn a lot today. Why don't we take a moment and just introduce yourselves and tell us about how long you've been doing this and about your career and why you are qualified to speak on recruitment today, absolutely probably should have started off with that. My name is Deirdre O’Regan for those of you who are who routinely listen into these shows, you would have seen me here presenting while Danielle was out having her beautiful babies.  

So I have been in generally the staffing arena, nurse staffing, for almost 18 years. And the last Wow, seven and a half, almost eight have been in the international space. So as Danielle has kicked us off, we have seen it all right? So we have been through retrogressions before. We've all been through COVID together. And we'll talk about how the landscape has changed over the last couple of years, and how you can best present yourself to make sure that you are getting your dream job here in the US. And I will hand it over to my counterpart, Joy, who I'm sure is very familiar to everyone as well. So Joy, if you'd like to introduce yourself, and then we can get started. So everyone for those of you who don't know me, I'm Joy Dan said, and I am working as a place of manager in the an AMN, I became in this industry since 2001 so I have been like around 20 years of experience, so the National Nurses. So we are so we will be here, and we'll be happy to assess each one of you, to how to present the interview, to prepare for the interview and to guide you throughout the interview process. 

Alright, well, very, very excited to have you both here. You both have a wealth of knowledge. You've been doing this for a long time. Fun fact, for those of you who have been watching the show for a long time, you'll probably remember my mom, Tanya Freedman, Joy was the first person that my mom worked with way back when. So they have been doing it for a long time. They have a lot of experience as Deirdre said, she's been through COVID, she's been through retrogression. So between the two of them, they have been doing this for a long time. And for those of you who are new and just joining us today, we are all here from AMN healthcare International, where we have staffing and direct hire opportunities all across the United States.  

So we have employers that are hiring on both sides of the house, staffing and direct hire we're going to bring up that map so you could see opportunities all over. And if you are interested in applying in either staffing or direct hire, you can apply on our website. That link is, am in healthcare.com, forward slash International, and our recruiters are on hand, ready and waiting and excited to help you reach your American dream. So please go ahead click on that link. We'll put it in the comments, and you can apply today. So if you have any questions for Deirdre and Joy, as we go through our show, we're going to be talking all about recruitment, feel free to put them in the chat. Otherwise, let's get started. So Dee, I'm going to start with you. You mentioned COVID, you mentioned retrogression. You. Have been in the game for quite a while. You've seen a thing or two. Can you give us a current state of the industry? What do things look like now? What can our nurses expect in terms of competition? What does the pool kind of look like? Absolutely, and that's a great way to kick us off.  

So it is an extremely competitive landscape environment right now for international nurses wanting to come to the US. So we mentioned COVID, and at that time, you know, just as everyone was experiencing worldwide, then you know, census just really increased significantly in hospitals. So hospital clients were more open to candidates who may have had less experience, right? So they were willing to train more have a longer orientation period, and because they really, really needed these clinicians, which we are very, very thankful and that we were able to get as many here as we could to help during that really challenging time. However it has, it has shifted like, you know, we said, we've, I've been in this industry for 18 years, Joy longer than me. We've seen these shifts before, and right now we're in a shift right where you can see the graphic here, and we don't say this, we say this to prepare you is, you've got a lot of competition out there right now, right? So you can see, in 2023 there were 55,000 plus NCLEX passers, 40 plus 1000 in 2024 and we're also seeing an influx in new US graduates. So what does that mean for you? So what that means for you is that you have got to have that strong experience in in acute care.  

One thing that may be in your control, and I don't say this lightly, is if you have the opportunity to return to bedside, if you are not currently working bedside, highly, highly recommend that you do that as soon as possible, because that's what our clients are looking for. They are looking for that current experience. If you are in the process of studying for your English exam or your NCLEX exam, please do not leave your bedside position while you are doing that, because that will delay you further, because, again, you need that current experience. What I would what I will leave you with, and we'll probably come back to it again, is be flexible be open, Be flexible. You may have a an area that you really want to go to because you may have friends and family there, and that's perfectly okay, just understand that you'll be waiting a longer time. And so if you have an offer in your hand, be it a direct hire or a staffing offer, I would encourage you to accept it, because look at those numbers and those nurses are coming up behind and looking to interview for those positions as well. 

Okay, thank you that's some good information for everybody who's watching. So I think what I'm hearing is that the pool is big, so there is a lot of competition out there. I see a lot of high numbers in there, in the 1000s, numbers that we didn't necessarily see a few years ago. So what I'm hearing is the pool is big, and you need to stand out if you're hoping to find a job right now in the US, would you say that's right? Dee 100% you know, we'll talk a little bit a little bit later in the show about how to present your best self in in a resume and an interview, but you've got to take a look at what your attributes are, right? Do you have a BSN, how many years of experience do you have? And make sure that you are highlighting that front and center, because it is not the same landscape that it was two years ago, three years ago, even 18 months ago. It's very different right now, and you've got to really let yourself shine and be open and be flexible and listen to your recruiter. They're there to guide you in in the right direction, and ultimately, get the get your dream job in the US and so let us help you, guide you in this very challenging landscape right now. 

Yeah, definitely. I think that's a good way to put it. Dee let us guide you let us use our expertise and help drought guide you through this challenging landscape. Between all of us, between our team, we have seen a thing or two. We've been through a retrogression or two. So we know how to handle this Joy. I want to turn to you, but before we do, I just want to give a quick shout out to those who are putting where they are watching from in the chat, I see Simeon is watching from Liberia. I see Tim is watching from Myanmar. I see Floris is watching from Kenya. Sakina is watching from Bangladesh. Hello to all of you thank you for joining us from around the world. Please feel free to put your questions in the chat. Our recruitment director, recruitment manager, are here and they are ready to take your questions. So Joy let's turn to you so now we know the competition is high. There are a lot of NCLEX passers in the pool. What are some basic requirements our nurses need to have that employers are looking for right now? 

Okay, first is as what the said, also, because I've been working in this industry for a very long time, it's true that before it nurses haven't like as long as the nurse pass in Plex hospital will go after them, train them. But that's not the case right now. So first basic is the NCLEX passer. So you need to be an NCLEX. You need to pass NCLEX. So for those of you who are planning to go to us, start, start now. Start processing for your end flights, and you must be currently working in acute care settings. So if you're working in a clinic right now and looking to work in the US, move back, move back to a hospital, and prepare to be a bigger set up, like minimum 100 bed capacity, like when it comes to the years of experience that varies per hospital. There are some hospitals that are looking for a year, there are two years, and there are even hospitals that are looking for five years of experience and is on the area of what they are looking for. So they're looking for medical, surgical or if they're looking, or you should be, or the nurse should be, working on the area, on the area they are looking for before we can present their them for the interview and preferably past English exam. So the top field, the IELTS, these two are acceptable mostly of all the states in the US when we do license endorsement, that's the basic requirements. 

Okay, thank you, Joy. So if you're following along or you're just joining us, we're talking about basic requirements that US employers want to see today, the competition is high. There are a lot of nurses who have passed the NCLEX, and these are ways to make yourself stand out. So da, let's turn to you. What are the top five things that our recruiters are looking for in resumes? Okay, so they are looking for, again, your qualifications, what kind of education qualification that that you have, so that that we can highlight that front and center and we want a professional summary of your skills, right? So we don't want to know everything that you did, but what is applicable to the position that you are applying for, right? Keep it high level, keep it professional in a summary format. And we want to know what licenses you have, what certifications that you have, and anything that you have achieved, right? So honors and awards, what comes to my mind is are you a DAISY Award winner were you highlighted at your facility for something amazing that, that you did, and were you nominated by a patient's family, etc, which is the DAISY Award?  

Make sure your contact information is very clear, right? So your email and your phone number, so clients will get sometimes they may choose to email you first, or they may want to talk to you directly. So really, and your recruiter will help you customize your resume. So that's what's going to be really important as well, is use that leverage, that they are experts in really identifying and helping you put front and center what your clients are going what our clients want to see in in a resume, and they want to look at it quickly and identify those areas quickly, right? So what's not to include? And it is on this slide, so I do want to make sure that we are highlighting that as well. So do not include an objective statement on your resume, and do not include anything personal, like hobbies, age, height, etc. So really, just keep it professional. Keep it to that, to those key things that are coated in green there at the top make it easy for a client to identify quickly that they want to interview you. 

Okay? Thank you, Dee. That's a quick snapshot of what you should include in your resume and what you should not include. As Dee said, if you are watching along and you're starting to feel like, oh gosh, there's a lot to do. There's a lot to include. There's a lot to not include. How am I going to know? What am I going to do? Our team is going to be there to help you through the process. So our recruiters are going to be helping you figure out exactly how to set up your resume, the best way to organize it. So don't worry, we're going to be here every step of the way. I want to go back to a couple of questions I see in the chat Joy. I'm going to turn to you. You talked about some basic requirements that our employers are looking for, and you mentioned English, so that's passing an English language exam. You mentioned the IELTS and the toe full. But as we know, and as some of our viewers may know, there are some other options that are accepted by some states, not others. It may be varied, and it might be constantly changing.  

I see some questions about the PTE and the OET. What advice do you have for our nurses on those two English exams, especially if you don't have employer yet at this stage, and it's safer to get TOEFL or IELTS, so that you don't have to take another exam when you do license endorsement, PTE, OET, like we can you can use that when you apply for the visa screen. That is still okay but there are Board of Nursing that really requires a specific English requirements. Like, for example, like Tennessee right now, they are not accepting PTA. So safer side, so that you don't have to retake or you don't have to take another English exam that is required for the license endorsement, so better to take IELTS or talking. Okay thank you, Joy so if you're watching along, she said it's safest to take IELTS and TOEFL if you do not have an employer. Dee I can see, I think you got something on the tip of your tongue. Do you have something to add there? I think Joy had mentioned just one state, Tennessee, that that that does not accept it. Another large state that is hiring right now is Missouri, that doesn't accept PTE either.  

So it's always our advice to don't do something twice that you can do once, and you're just going to open your opportunities a lot more if you choose IELTS and or TOEFL. Bear in mind, we do have an English preparation course that we also help you with to prepare you to make sure that you are passing those English exams on the first attempt. But I know that Danielle had had mentioned, it sounds like, oh my gosh, there's, there's a lot to do, and it's, it's so it's so competitive, that's one thing that you can do just once, hopefully if you pass it on your first attempt. But if you choose to take an exam, and that's not that's not accepted in the state where you are placed, then you will have to take another English exam. So we're trying to avoid that for you at all costs. 

Thank you, Dee and Joy, I just like to add also. I just like to add also like from the like, if your recruiters also can guide you, what are the type of exams on that specific stage they are here to guide but the safest is that IELTS and topping. Thank you, Joy and I don't want a little nugget that D dropped to also get lost if you haven't passed your English test yet, as Joy said, your recruiter can guide you. You don't need to pass your English in order to apply, but you will need it before your interview. We offer an English language preparation course. So that's special to AMN Healthcare International. That's something that's only for our nurses. So if you want to take advantage of that, you can apply to us, and we can help you get through that program. We've had a lot of success getting our nurses through the English exam. And we can advise you wish English exam is going to be best for you. I like how da put it. You don't want to do something twice that you can do once, and the English exam is certainly one of those things. So if you are inspired today, we want to invite you again to apply on our website.  

That's amnhealthcare.com/international, you could take advantage of that English exam scholarship, and our recruiters are on hand, ready and waiting to help you with your application. So I want to take a turn and turn to the interview. So what is the best way to prepare for an interview? Dee I'm going to turn to you on this one, yes. So the key, the key word there, is prepare, right? So take the time to do your research on the hospital that you are, that you are interviewing with, right? So nothing better for an for an interviewer to come on and interview call and you know something about the hospital that you are interviewing for, maybe it's accolades or awards that that they have received, right? And so, and also do your research on the area, right? So can you see yourself living there? What are things to do outside of work, schools in the area, if you are traveling with with your children, what's the weather like? That's really important. That's something that we hear all the time. Is it for seasons? Is it warmer? Is it colder?  

These are all going to be things that you're going to take into consideration as you consider an opportunity should you be offered after that interview research, cost of living, right? So that's going to be important, particularly if you are traveling with a family and have questions prepared, right? Try to limit your answers, to expand on those yes or no's, right? So have some examples that you can share with your interviewer as to things that you have done on your unit. Ask questions that have you engaged in the conversation like, what's it like on the unit? Can you explain to me what a typical day is probably not right, because there's no typical day, but ask questions that that have the interviewer thinking, Yes, this candidate is seeing themselves on my unit, working at my facility. They're thinking about things that may impact their job on a daily basis, like what's the typical nurse to patient ratio? So just and most importantly, be confident in your answers, right? So you've already gotten through phase one of the application process. We have Yes. Said yes, your skills qualify for this opportunity. Now it's up to you to really sell yourself in that interview. Draw on those skills that have gotten you to that place initially and be confident in your answers and ask follow up questions, right? So that's really, really important. Be confident, be engaged, be prepared. 

Perfect. Thank you Dee, that's some good advice for those of you who may be preparing for the interview. You can also watch we have some shows on our website all about marketing yourself in the US, all about interview tips, all about resume tips. Today is just a quick shot 30 minute show during Career Week to get to touch on resume and interview tips. But if you look on our websites, and we'll drop the link in the chat, you can check out our longer shows, you'll see some familiar faces, and we dive deep into resume prep, interview prep, and give you all of that good information. So we'll put that link in the chat. I want to take a couple questions from the chat. I see Elvis is asking, Is AMN a direct hire or a staffing agency? Well, good news, Elvin, we are a direct hire and staffing agency. We're the biggest in the US, and we have jobs all across the US.  

So if you are interested in a direct hire position or a staffing position, we can offer you both, so you can apply on our website, and our recruiters will be ready and happy to help you. So I see there are a couple of questions on h1's so Dee, I'm going to turn to you again on this one, there is a question from Satish about our advertising for RN hiring. Can you please address this question and share any information that our nurses who might be watching along need to know absolutely. So yes, we do have limited opportunities in for an h1b visa in Tennessee. I know that we had seen that ad that went out this week. They are very, very limited, and right now we're looking for candidates who've got Ed experience and step down with PCU. So I just want to take this opportunity to really talk about h1b's and the limited opportunities that there are available for h1b candidates. So of course, here you know what the requirements are. You have to have a bachelor's, and the facility that you are going to also has to have that requirement as well.  

But for these particular positions, it's very important that you must not be committed to another employer, right? So that will be something that our team will speak to you about. And you also must not have had an EB3 filed previously. But again, h1b, can be a great option for certain candidates, but you really want to talk to your recruiter and talk to your family as well about if that is the route that you want to go. There were, there are certain parameters around that, h1b, visa that you will have to understand and commit to, and your recruiter can help you can help you through that. But the reality is, if you want to be open to more opportunities and more locations, more specialties, really, I would be considering the EB3 route. It might take you a little bit longer, but you will have access to a lot more opportunities 90s. Again, h1b, opportunities are extremely limited, and for these particular positions that we are recruiting for, then go back to that experience we're looking for five plus years experience. So it's really important that you look at all of the different logistics that are pertaining to an h1b visa before you decide to go that route. But we've plenty of EB3 opportunities available for you. Our recruiters are on hand to help you through that. 

Okay, well, there you have it. I saw there's a couple questions in there about h1 B's some good information for you. We are hiring for h1b's, which I know can be exciting because there are few positions for that category under the visa, but there are some advantages and disadvantages to consider. We will post a link in the chat to some questions about h1b's that can help you answer and figure out if that might be a good option for you, and you can also talk to your recruiter to figure out if that might be a good option for you. So I see what you're sorry. Can I just mention I'm very sorry these positions, I forgot it's on our ad, but these positions are direct hire only. Okay? So just wanted to make sure it's front and center out there. I'm sure everyone who saw it knows, but I just wanted to take the opportunity to make sure that we were mentioning that as well. Thank you for clarifying.  

Dee, so I see we are almost at the top of the half hour, so I'm going to take a couple more questions. Joy we're going to turn to you. I want to know why are some RNs hired, post an interview. And why are some RNs not hired post an interview? What trends do you kind of see as a recruitment manager? Yeah, I Okay I think normally the common reason what we are looking for is we have the criteria from the clients, like what they are looking for. So the communication, the common reason why they are not hard is the communication, how the nurse present themselves, when they do, when they go for an interview. So for this, like there are some, there are a lot of nurses who are very tense or nervous, maybe when they talk to the to the interviewer, and the interviewer can see that. So most common reasons are the nurse is not, is not confident to answers, to answer the behavioral questions or the situational question. So the nurse should be very clear on what are very clear in the answer, because some of the some of the nurses, some of the interviewers, cannot understand. They have difficulty understanding the nurse. So Talk slowly. Talk slowly. Talk clearly. Be clear, because others very big answers and we help present them absolutely.  

So this is live, so sometimes we can hear some audio challenges. But, yeah, Joy, is totally right. You will come through as more confident if you are prepared, right? So again, we had said that you would not be sitting in front of an interviewer if you hadn't passed the first the first phase, which is identifying that you've got the skills to be able to work at that particular location. So please just make sure that that you're confident in in your answers, and expand on those yeses and no's we already talked about that. But also think about things that you're not even in the communication piece of the interview. But consider your background, right? Consider Are you in a place where there's no noise, right? So that can be very distracting, both to yourself and to an interviewer, and you want to be able to give that your 100% focus. So if there's background noise that's going to distract you, it's going to distract the interviewer, and that's going to make you nervous, right? So really think about your location that you are interviewing in like little things like, do you have pets running around, or whatever that may look like, and but just think about things like that, again, putting your best foot forward and making sure that you are presenting.  

Well, this is a it might be via teams and via a Webex like, like we are doing now, but it is a professional interview, so please present yourself as you would, as you would normally do if you were meeting face to face in an interview. So hope all those tips and tricks help and but really, it's just about putting your best foot forward and being confident. So you have, aside from what they said, be there, treat it like a personal interview. Some of the nurses like, so there's professionally so it's just like the interviewer can see you be on time. Be on time and just it's part of the preparation, be on time. There's properly be in the location. There are some that we go for. They are driving when they are taking the they are taking the interview. So be mindful of your environment as well. So the internet connection is one of the key because that is how like the communication will be. So just, just the preparation and the environment is very like factor to have a successful last year experience. Of course, awesome. Thank you, Joy. Thank you Dee. So Joy, you kind of touched on it, but let's just go a quick, little bit deeper. Why might a nurse not be hired post an interview, if they're sitting there thinking 

I thought that went well, why might they not be getting that offer first? Yes, like I have, I think I have answered that few earlier, when I the reasons, but I think it goes down. Aside from those, like the communication, we can't fit them. And think the preparation, there are some the preparation from the nurse. Some of them just take it easy when they just it's just like sitting there talking to but purely, like the it's the interview is always like a combination of behavioral, behavioral and the clinical. So for the clinical, they just have like, they just have to, like, to review the CDs, review their experience, the communication. Like maybe a lot of nurses, they have a very good experience, but they are so they are so nervous that they fail to put across the message they want to relate to the nurses. And then also, there are some there are some nurses like they are not engaging enough. Some of the nurses were rejected for reason that nurse seems not interested. They didn't ask question. So we encourage the nurses to ask questions. That's just to show that like to learn to know that the that the interviewer to work with them and not able to provide example. So I think that is answerable by yes or no.  

Do not wait for the interviewer to prompt or to ask a lot of follow up questions just to get what the interviewer wants to know. So be engaging, be clear. And that is because those were the mostly reason, aside from the technical side the internet. But yeah, so mostly is the communication. And also like, how do you answer? How you answer the situational? Because there's a lot of situational questions on the interview as well. Okay, some good advice from our recruitment director and our recruitment manager on why RNs are hired or not hired post interview. We also have a fun little graphic. Let's pull that up on some reason, on some things to not do during an interview, some good little tips and some tricks. So we have don't underestimate the importance of a background. So you both talked about that, you know, talk talking in a car. Taking an interview on the go probably not the best idea. No eating don't be in bed. Place your webcam properly. They want to see your beautiful face. Don't check your cell phone. Also, another good tip, make sure you're engaged. As Dee and Joy have spoken about having pets around and having anybody else around, you want to make sure that you are dedicating your time to that employer when they have dedicated time to interview.  

You look at the camera like you're talking directly to it. You want it to feel like a face to face interview. Don't become distracted by your own image on the screen. I know I struggle with this one. I don't know about you guys, but it can be hard. But what you want to do is pretend like it's an in person interview, and try and just make it flow naturally. Okay, so we are almost at time. I want to give you each a moment to give your final piece of advice for nurses who might be thinking about immigrating to the US da, we'll start with you. Yeah, absolutely, you know, if you are not currently working in an acute care setting, highly, highly advise you to do that if you can. As we had already mentioned, our clients are looking for that strong acute care experience be open and flexible. And I know that we talk about that on every show. It is more important now than it. Has been in previous years to really lock in that position, lock in that job.  

So if you are sitting on an offer, be it with direct hire or be it with staffing, accept it. Because, again, very, very competitive right now, and there are 1000s of nurses that are looking for similar opportunities. Work with your recruiter on making sure that that's the right decision for you. When I say accepted, I what we mean is that it's got to be the right decision for you and but really talk through all of that with your recruiter and make sure that you are making the right decision. We don't want you to miss out on an opportunity that you may be interested in if we're not accepting it in time. So best of luck to all of you. Please let us know if there's anything else that we can help you in putting your best foot forward and realizing your American dream. We're here to help you. Thank you. Dee, Joy. Any final pieces of advice, yeah, for those nurses like who are really interested or eyeing to go to us, there's no better time than now. If you have already passed NCLEX and in your application, we'll be assisting you with will assisting you looking for an employer, for the right fit for you. We'll be guiding you throughout the process. For those who haven't started yet, no NCLEX, no IELTS. Start now.  

Look for, look for, start accessing for whatever is required for the US. Recreation is we have, as what we have said earlier, retrogradation is, is normal, is common, and we have experienced too many retrogress in the past, and that is that is just temporary. So start now, send your application, and we will be here to assist you out. And best of luck for everyone. Thank you, Joy. I did want to take one more question as we were going through. I saw this one come through in the chat, and I think I will answer this in my final piece of advice, I see a question from Soysoy is asking if the visa bulletin is not currently moving, why do US hospitals still hire nurses internationally? So I think what Soysoy is probably feeling, and what some of you who are watching from around the world might be feeling is a little bit discouraged we're not seeing as fast of timelines as we saw during COVID, or as we saw a few years ago. And you might be thinking, why even try? It's going to take so long, and we're here to tell you that you will get here. Retrogression does not mean that you're not going to come it just means that there is a delay, and it's going to take a little bit longer, but we are going to get you here.  

And US hospitals are still hiring international nurses because there is a nursing shortage. We need nurses from around the world to come and help. So I would highly encourage you all to continue on. Take your NCLEX, take your English exam, get that experience. It may not be an easy road. I know I'm an immigrant. Deirdre is also an immigrant, but it is a worthwhile road I've reached my American dream. So is Dee, and we encourage all of you to do the same. I'm the child of an immigrant, and now here I am. So I highly encourage you all follow your dreams. Don't let a little bit of timing delay you in starting the rest of your life in the US. So we wish you the best of luck. We hope that these tips were helpful, and we will see you for the rest of our Career Week marathon.  

So thank you to Joy and Deirdre for your time today. We appreciate it, and let's bring up our graphics of what you can expect for the rest of the week. So we have shows tomorrow, February 27 and February 28 tomorrow, we are going to be featuring Methodist Le Bonheur healthcare out in Tennessee. This is the direct hire employer doing h1b hiring. So I know a lot of you are going to be very interested and excited to learn all about Methodist, to learn all about Tennessee. I've been there. It's an amazing place to go. So I am very excited to be interviewing the team there. And on February 28 we're going to be talking to some nurses about their journey to the US. So we're going to be getting some insights all about their recruitment journey, their immigration journey and their arrival journey in the US. So hopefully you can get some inspiration from these nurses, and you too can reach your American dream. So thank you Joy, thank you Dee. Thank you to those of you who have been joining us from around the world. I am excited to see you all tomorrow for our Methodist showcase onwards and upwards.